<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2860"><span>Hi Frank,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2865"><br><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2960"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2959">Not at all. You have jumpstarted discussion, which is always nice. And I realize our meeting schedule and locations are not as obvious to newbies now that we use Meetup to keep track of the meeting notices.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3009"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2959"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3008"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2959">I used to like the library meetings, but the recent meetings at Lamanda Branch Library have been a bit depressing. People are more likely to gather if we announce that there is some kind of class or topic. <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2961"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3551">I will try to make an effort to get Hastings Branch Library back as a meeting place for next year. And we'll see if there is an uptick in attendance of the Saturday sessions. The next one will be Feb 27th. Hope to see you there. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3595"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3678"><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3679" href="http://www.meetup.com/SGVTech/events/qcpvmhyvdbkc/">http://www.meetup.com/SGVTech/events/qcpvmhyvdbkc/</a><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3728"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2796" class="qtdSeparateBR">Lan<br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2830" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2829" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2828" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2827" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2826" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3826" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Frank Bellino <prisonerprince@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> hak@sgvhak.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 4, 2016 1:15 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [SGVHAK] HAK Digest, Vol 41, Issue 2<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_2839" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8784273988"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1451942527969_3828" dir="ltr">Thanks Lan, you have helped me realize I have no opinion of merit. :-)</div>
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Lan, I'm a nubi/nuby/newby/lurker who follows the lists and has attended a<br>
couple meetings at duPar's but not yet one of the hak/lab events. That<br>
said, I've not heard of the Library Meetings before. What is their purpose<br>
and what transpires when they are held.<br>
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I might have an interest if I knew more and possibly there are other<br>
'lurkers' out here who would have input too.<br>
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From: Lan Dang <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:l.dang@ymail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:l.dang@ymail.com">l.dang@ymail.com</a>><br>
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Hi all,<br>
So we have cancelled the last 3 Saturday meetings in a row, two of them<br>
because of the holidays and one of them because of SCALE.<br>
Two items:<br>
* I am out of town on May 28th. Unless someone else wants to host the<br>
meeting, I intend on cancelling it.<br>
* Our current reservation for the library meeting room will need to be<br>
renewed around the May/June timeframe. I believe our reservations last<br>
till July.<br>
* Do we want to go back to Hastings Branch Library? * Do we want the<br>
Saturday meetings at the library at all?<br>
<br>
If you care about this at all, please speak up. If I don't hear anything,<br>
I'm going to let the library reservation lapse and cancel the Saturday<br>
meetings from July on out.<br>
Lan<br>
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Hi Frank,<br>
Welcome.<br>
HAK meets three times a month, on the first and third Thursdays nights at semi-private workshops in Arcadia and on the 4th Saturday. We originally met at the Hastings Branch Library for the first couple of years. We were unable to reserve the meeting room this year, so we ended up at the Pasadena Lamanda Branch Library. <br>
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The Saturday meetings run from 2pm to 5:45pm and were aimed at HAK members who couldn't make the Thursday meetings and potential new members who are curious about our group. Since it is held at a public library, it is easy for people to just drop by, and we'd occasionally have kids there, too. It was a long meeting to allow you to be able to get some work done. You can also just talk, get advice, and see what other people are working on. On the con side, the wireless is not great, and we couldn't do anything that required special equipment or that would make a mess. We also had to not make too much noise.<br>
We originally met at the Hastings Branch Library, which was a more attractive venue. There was plenty of shaded parking, and the meeting room was right next to the circulation desk and on the way to the bathroom, so we had a lot of people wander through our meetings. They were fun.<br>
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The turnout has been pretty low since we started meeting at Lamanda. The space is bigger and we have more privacy, but we are less discoverable. The meeting room is in the bowels of the library, and the only people who would go back there are people who want to use the copy machine or the restroom. <br>
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My issue is that the turnout has been pretty low. When the turnout is only a few people, and those people are the regulars who already come to the Thursday meetings, then I'd rather retire the Saturday meetings in favor of adhoc meetings at more desirable meeting places.<br>
Lan<br>
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Lan, I'm a nubi/nuby/newby/lurker who follows the lists and has attended a couple meetings at duPar's but not yet one of the hak/lab events. That said, I've not heard of the Library Meetings before. What is their purpose and what transpires when they are held.I might have an interest if I knew more and possibly there are other 'lurkers' out here who would have input too.Frank<br>
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 06:16:25 +0000 (UTC)<br>
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Hi all,<br>
So we have cancelled the last 3 Saturday meetings in a row, two of them because of the holidays and one of them because of SCALE.<br>
Two items:<br>
* I am out of town on May 28th. Unless someone else wants to host the meeting, I intend on cancelling it.<br>
* Our current reservation for the library meeting room will need to be renewed around the May/June timeframe. I believe our reservations last till July.<br>
* Do we want to go back to Hastings Branch Library? * Do we want the Saturday meetings at the library at all?<br>
<br>
If you care about this at all, please speak up. If I don't hear anything, I'm going to let the library reservation lapse and cancel the Saturday meetings from July on out.<br>
Lan<br>
<br>
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